Interview with comedian Brad Williams

Only 18 inches separate comedian Brad Williams, 32, from the height of an average American male, but that difference gives him an entirely different perspective.  Combine that with his keen observation skills, wicked intelligence, fearlessness, a bit of a naughty streak, yet prevailing good guy behavior, you have one of the best comedians out there.  Brad discusses many great things with Michelle Tompkins for including the importance of being well-rounded with general knowledge as a comedian, being unapologetically un-PC in a world where people are easily offended, his admiration for other comedians including Christopher Titus, Carrot Top and Anthony Jeselnik, how sad it is that comedians can get sued for telling a joke, international travel adventures and what you should never call him.

And no, Brad Williams has never grabbed the booty of a woman he didn’t know in order to see what would happen…

Image result for brad williams daddy issues Thank you so much. Again, thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. You were the first person I wanted to interview when I started writing for, so I'm so glad you were able to do it.

Brad Williams: Really? Wow. You know that Peter Dinklage still exists, right?

TCC: Oh, I love him, and I love Game of Thrones. But I've actually had many people watch your show, and I've been talking about you pretty much for the last year. So I thought it would be fun to celebrate you and maybe make you the second highest profile little person in Hollywood.

BW: [laughter] I like it. Well, thank you very much. I do appreciate that.

TCC: Anytime. So, what have you been up to?

BW: Touring like a madman, as always. It's amazing that I did two specials in two years, and when I released the second one I was sort of panicked. Like, "Oh, god, now I've got to write a whole new hour again." And I'm pretty much there, and we're not even a year out of-- well, we're barely six months out of the special. And I almost have a new one ready to go.

TCC: You're kidding. That's great.

BW: Yeah. I'm kind of shocked. Right now I'm kind of going over the most recent special, "Daddy Issues." I'm going over it because we're going to re-release it as an album that you could own. And it's funny. I'm going over the material and I can't remember half the jokes [laughter].

TCC: Well, let's see. You talked about the urinal, you talked about your dad, you talked about Katy Perry -- we got a lot of great things and many subjects.

BW: You know what? And I'm kind of proud of that. I like to talk about very different topics. I like to jump around a lot because I don't want people to come see me and then for an hour I tell jokes about being a little person. I just don't want that to happen. I understand that it’s part of me, that's the first thing that you notice and it's something that people are curious about. So, I'm always going to dabble in it and talk about it from the point of view. Because I don't know how to write jokes from the point of view of a six-foot-two guy. So, I'll always talk about it, but I just don't want it to be the absolute focus of all of my act.

TCC: It seems like you really know a lot about pop culture, history -- you're well read, know a little bit about everything. I've noticed that it's not just about being a little person and waiting for something funny. It's actually observing the world around you. And actually it's stuff -- whether you're a dwarf or not -- that's pretty funny.

BW: Thank you. When I heard, back even before he was a comedian, I heard that Chris Rock read three newspapers a day just to get the world view. So, now I'm constantly watching the news. I'm constantly watching satirical news programs, and just -- I never want to be in a situation where someone could yell out a topic and I will have absolutely no opinion on it whatsoever, or just not even know it exists. So, I kind of want to know a little bit about everything. I don't think I'm extremely intelligent by any means. I don't know a lot about anything, but I know a little bit about everything.

TCC: I think that's enough to get most people started, and more than most.

BW: Yeah. Enough to keep conversations going at parties, and enough to where last night when someone yelled out a topic -- that they just want to hear about it -- and I go, "Oh, okay. Let's talk about this now."

TCC: Obviously part of it also is being able to go with the flow, and I think the best comedians are smart comedians. So, you have that going for you too.

BW: Yeah, it takes a surprisingly large amount of intelligence to be a professional idiot [chuckles].

TCC: True.

BW: Yeah. Yeah, if you look at the top comics doing it today -- whether it be your Bill Burrs, or Louis C.K.s, or Jim Jefferies, or Amy Schumer -- they know about things. They know about the topics that they're talking about. You can't really school them too easily.

TCC: I've listened to a couple of your podcasts -- those are good, too. Can you tell me about them?

BW: Yeah, the “About Last Night” Podcast. It's me and my partner Adam Ray, who you may recognize from the movies The Heat and, most recently, Ghostbusters - he was the lead singer of the rock band in that one -- and current cast member of the revival of MadTV. We've been friends for years -- we actually went to college together - and we just started doing this podcast together. We know more famous people than we realize because they started doing the podcast, and other famous people -- once you hear that Dana Carvey and Melissa McCarthy and Paul Feig have done something, you're like, "Oh, well I want to do that [chuckles]." And it just kind of snowballs from there. And our guest list is pretty impressive if you go through the backlogs of the show. And it's all just him and I just like asking favors, and talking to friends, and networking around Los Angeles -- it's not -- we don't have a booker, we don't have a producer, we don't have -- it's him and me.

TCC: You guys have a very easy relationship on the podcast. It's fun to listen to. So, it seems probably it's the way you are in real life.

BW: Yeah. We both don't take too many things too seriously. We're both kids of the '90s, so any sort of '90s TV show reference we'll jump on and we enjoy. And if we do talk politics it's very surface, it's not in-depth. We don't get to the global issues or anything like that. We're just trying to be silly. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's extremely important for people to be informed and to be educated and to know what's going in their community and in their country, but every now and then you just kind of want to turn the brain off for a little bit and just laugh and be silly. That's what our podcast provides.

TCC: I think that's great. A part of being a comedian seems to be having a joke that absolutely bombs. How do you handle it when that happens?

BW: It's funny because it used to be, when I would bomb I would panic and I would freak out. Now, I've gotten to the point in my career, I'm 13 years in, to where I know that I'm funny. I know that I'm good at this. So when a joke bombs, and it still does, it's more I look at it like, "Huh," like more analytical. And I just kind of look at it like, "Wow. Okay. So why did that bomb?" And I don't panic because I know I have other stuff that's funny and that's good and that will get the audience back. But hey, sometimes a joke bombs. It's amazing when you try to explain to some people -- some people -- I'll write a joke on Twitter or I'll say a joke in my act -- it's new and it won't do so well. And someone will be like, "Ah, I can't -- oh, you're horrible." I think my batting average is pretty good. We're allowed to miss every now and then. If you got a hit every third time that you went up to bat in the major leagues, you'd be the greatest hitter of all time. I think my average is a little better than that. So, yes, every now and then we're going to fail. Every now and then you'll say something that didn't quite work. But the important thing is, as a comic, you try to learn why it didn't. And then you adjust and figure out how to either make it work or just abandon it because it's just not funny.

TCC: Makes sense. For acting gigs, are you only sent out for stuff for dwarves or do they send you for other parts as well?

BW: Little bit of column A, little bit of column B. It's funny because sometimes they send me out for parts for a little person that don't fit me, like it's for a different type of dwarf or just a jockey. Dwarves aren't really jockeys. And then sometimes they send me out for parts that have nothing to do with my dwarfism. And I'm always happy to do that because I'm not just funny because I'm a little person. I'm funny because I'm funny. And there's more to offer. And now I'm writing a few things, few original things where sure it'll be like my act. Where yes, the main character will be a dwarf but it's not going to be the focus of the show.

TCC: Makes sense. I mean, you've made it very clear on your shows that you don't think about your stature all the time. It would make sense that you wouldn't. Why would you? But do you think people are nicer or meaner to you because you're a dwarf?

BW: Both. And I'll say this, I say both because I think people are nicer because sometimes they think small, they think weak and fragile. So some people are nicer that way. And then I'd say meaner because I'm small and fragile that means I'm not going to respond and be -- I'm not going to beat you up. I'm not threatening. So some people take that opportunity to let a little more -- to let the comments fly that you wouldn't say to a person who was larger than you or you felt threatened by.

TCC: Well, it seems like most comedians seem to hate playing college campuses now. Because they feel that it's too PC. And they're always treading on eggshells. Do you feel the same way?

BW: Yeah. I don't really do colleges. And it's funny 'cause now it's to the point where it's not just colleges. That is spreading, in terms of me. Everyone just wants to hear the exact jokes that apply to them and want to -- everyone wants a perfectly crafted joke for them. In every other aspect of their life, we have entertainment that is crafted almost to an individual. So they expect that from stand-up as well. And everyone's extremely and easily offended now. I don't know if you guys have been covering the Mike Ward case. Mike Ward is a comedian in Montreal. And he made a joke about a disabled child. The disabled child in the family actually sued Mike Ward. And they won and Mike has to pay them $42,000. For a joke that he made. That horrified me especially since -- and somebody would be like, "Oh, well. It's just Canada." And say, "Well, yeah but that's where we're all moving when Trump gets elected." So, I mean, we should be concerned with how life is up there.

TCC: Well, just not being able to tell a joke is a big problem. I agree with you.

BW: I don't get the animosity when someone tells a joke that you don't like. Whereas if someone made a dish that you don't like if you went to a restaurant, you would either try another dish or you just don't go back to that restaurant. But you don't say like, "I did not like the hamburger here. This restaurant should be shut down. It should be banned from making hamburgers. No one else should have these hamburgers." And everyone else is like, "No, you wouldn't do that."

So, I don't know why you'd go to a comedian and say, "You know what? You have a large menu of items, but this one thing I did not like and therefore, you should be shut down. You should cease to make a living and you should be thrown out in the streets." It's very confusing to me why people take comedians so seriously. Half the time, you go on any one of these news sites, whether it be a Yahoo or a Google, and one of the top headlines is always, "Did a comedian go too far?" or "Comedian offends." It's like, "Really? Comedian?" A person that's supposed to make funny and make silly and historically was the only person who was allowed to make fun of the king? We're the ones that you're taking seriously? Comedian makes the statement that just isn't true. Yeah [laughter]. That's in the job description. I feel like that's like if someone got made like, "Construction worker builds building." Yeah, that's what they do. I don't get all the anger that is thrown at comedians.

TCC: An easy target, I think, but I don't know why people do it.

BW: Yup, I don't know either, and the vast majority of people that have gotten mad at me for a joke that I've made were people that were, A, never going to see me in the first place, or, B, were dragged to see me by somebody else. I just don't get if you have ever gotten offended by a joke, why would you go to a comedy club? That's where jokes happen. I'm really confused by that.

TCC: You mentioned you hate the people who are offended by proxy. I'm offended on behalf of someone else. That seems where most of the animosity came from.

BW: That is the most confusing and insane thing to me, when people get offended on behalf of another group. Where someone where a joke does not apply to them at all -- don't get me wrong. If I make a joke about black people or Asian people or whatever, and then an Asian comes up to me afterwards and says, "That joke offended me," I'm still more or less not going to listen, but at least it makes sense, like I said something that was about them. It's when I make a joke about Indian people and then a white person comes up to me and says, "That's wrong. You should not talk about Indian people," and the Indian people are over in the audience like, "I thought that joke was hilarious." That is so weird. Then why are you getting mad? You're burning unnecessary calories. You're getting made for the sake of getting mad. I don't understand it.

TCC: Is there anything in your opinion that's too serious to joke about?

BW: No. And don't get me wrong. There are things that I won't joke about, but it's not because I don't think they're funny or they can't be made funny. It's just that they don't fit my particular skill set. Like, I'm not going to talk too much politics because I'm not smart enough to do that. And not so much that I think that comedians are required to talk about controversial subjects, whether it be abortion, rape, disability, whatever, but they should have the option to. They should have the option of trying out whatever sort of material or topics or jokes they want to try out. Now, if the audience doesn't laugh, that's okay. You can say that a joke about rape is not funny. That is perfectly legal. You don't have to find it funny. Freedom of speech does not mean that you have to agree with everything that a comedian says, but that comedian should have the freedom to be able to try to make that funny. It's the attempt that I'm trying to defend so hard, not necessarily the execution.

TCC: Who are some comedians you admire?

BW: Man. That are working today? So, so many.

TCC: Oh no, they could be dead or alive.

BW: I mean, Christopher Titus taught me how to go into -- like the special “Daddy Issues,” would not happen without Christopher Titus. Because he taught me how to go into those very dark places and very emotional places and then take the audience with you and then pull them out. So, I couldn't go all that material about my dad without his influence. And then I'm also in awe of comedians that do things that I can't do, whether it be a one-liner comic like Anthony Jeselnik, whether it be social issues commentary, whether it be -- hell, Carrot Top. I can't be Carrot Top. I can't. I can't do what he does. I can't write that kind of joke, so I admire him. I admire ventriloquists, because I can't do that. I mean, I might get mistaken for a ventriloquist dummy every now and then [chuckles], but I can't do what they do. I can't be a great props comic, with how intelligent he is; he's literally the smartest man in the world. And then there's -- I'm in awe of comics that do things that I can't do, or haven't tried doing yet. So, there's so many. And then, of course, when you talk about modern comedy I think there's a big three right now, and that's Louis C.K., Bill Burr, and Jim Jefferies. I don't think anyone's doing it better than those three guys.

TCC: Well, I'd make sure to put you in there too, but I don't think you'd be able to say that about yourself [chuckles].

BW: Well, thank you. But not to dust a little dirt off my shoulder, but the New York Times said that no one's doing it better than me. So, I'll take that.

TCC: You seem to be a globe trotter. Is there any place that you want to visit, but haven't been yet?

BW: Australia. I want to go to Australia so bad, do comedy there, and see the people there. It's a great country. I have friends that are Australian that have told me all about it. I want to do comedy there. I've been to Canada, and they love -- oh my God, they love their stand-up comedy in Canada. I've been overseas to do shows for the troops all over the Middle East, and I actually went to China recently and did shows, not for the troops, but just for local Chinese people, and Americans that have moved there, and things like that. It was fantastic. They got it. They're way smarter than we give them credit for.

TCC: I liked it when you talked about it on your podcast. I listened to that one. I thought it was great.

BW: Thank you. Yeah, it was surprising to me how much they know about American culture and how much they are laughing currently at American culture.

TCC: We have a lot of material.

BW: Yeah, we do. That's for sure.

TCC: When did you first realize that you had the power to make people laugh with you, not at you?

BW: In school, when I was the funny guy that kids wanted to hang out with. When the fact that I would make a joke about myself would take away their ammunition to make jokes at me. I joke about myself. All right, that work just took away your ammo. Now what can you do? But then, I was always the funny guy. Everyone wants to hang out with the funny guy. It was in school, and trying to find my place, and how I could get people to like me, I found out if you're a funny guy, a lot of people like you.

TCC: You also seem to value kindness a lot. Do you think that's because of your parents?

BW: Absolutely, and just -- I don't know. To me, it's strange, because you're not the first person to say, "Hey, so you're a kind person. Why?" It's like, "Because you should be. That's what you should be doing. You should be nice to people and not be calm and happy one moment, and then one person does one tiny insignificant thing and just blow up and make it the crisis." That's one thing I think that social media has done. Before, if you were waiting in line at the DMV and it was annoying, you would say to yourself, "I hate waiting in line at the DMV" [chuckles]. Now, because of social media, as you're doing it, you're posting, "This is the worst day ever. The DMV line is not moving. I hate the DMV. Now I know what true pain and suffering is. Those children in Africa should shut the fuck up, because they don't have to wait in line at the DMV." Now, in the moment, you rant about these things, and it's just about the minutiae of life. It just blows out of proportion and gets you more stressed than you certainly needed to be. It's weird when people ask me, "Why are you so nice?" It's like, "Because that's just what you should do. You should be kind to people." It seems really basic, but it's amazing how many people forget that.

TCC: I think a lot do. I've noticed -- this is what I've noticed from your social media. You seem to be an all-around nice guy, and many comedians don't.

BW: I try not to be hateful. I'll put this in perspective for you. This is a perfect example. During my tour of China, I was flying home and one of my flights were delayed and I had to be in the Taiwanese airport for 12 hours. And it was the middle of the night, there was barely anyone there, no one spoke English, none of the people at the businesses could talk to me. I was literally sitting alone for 12 hours in an airport in Taiwan, and I couldn't talk to anybody. And I did have WiFi so I could watch Netflix or do stuff like that. But I thought about just going on full comedian, talking about how much this sucks that I was doing this. And while that was happening, while I was in that airport in Taiwan thinking, "My life is the worst," that's when Orlando happened. And then I started seeing social media blow up about Orlando and what was going on there, and it was like, "Oh." When Orlando is going on, I can't go on and be like, "Aw, man, being in the airport is the worst thing ever with air conditioning and WiFi and food [chuckles]." In the grand scheme of things, it's nothing. It's a blip. It's a minor speed bump. So I think that's what you just have to kind of take inventory of. What's going on in the world? Are your problems really that bad? Is it really that bad? Can you not even right now? So, yeah. I try not to -- and you see this every day. A celebrity goes off on Twitter. Like right now Blake Shelton is getting in trouble for stuff he tweeted in 2009. 2009, 2010… So it's like, just don't be that person where you can go back and find these evil, hateful, mean tweets. Just be kind, because that stuff's going to be out there forever. Shelton, I guarantee you, forgot all about those things that he said.

TCC: Yeah, you forget, though, with social media, what you say now 10, 20 years ago will still find a way out. If you're looking for the bad, you're going to find it with anyone.

BW: Yeah, and by the way, if you think this election is crazy, just imagine in 20 years, when candidates will have grown up with social media their entire lives. We're going to have a president where we have -- where someone could go through their timeline, or someone could go through their Snapchat, or someone will find -- a future president will have sent a d### pic [laughter].

TCC: That's funny.

BW: We're going to see that. People are thinking -- people are saying things about Trump like, "I can't believe it. No president's ever said things like this before." Just wait. Just wait. Oh, my God, it's going to be -- can you imagine when we can go back and read our president's Facebook posts from junior high.

Yeah, I so hate so-and-so. They look funny. Really.

Yeah. Everyone's going to have a racist tweet, a homophobic tweet, a xenophobic tweet, a misogynist tweet. Everyone's going to have a tweet or a post or something that's not going to be ideal, and because of that, you can't really throw stones too hard at the people that do, because if we examined your life in every way, shape, or form, went through every single post with a fine-toothed comb and under that microscope, would it come out all sunshine and lollipops?

TCC: Probably not. One thing I like about your comedy is that it's biting, but it is not mean.

BW: No. Thanks for noticing that because I try for that. I strive for that.

Yeah, I don't want to be mean [chuckles]. I try not to be. I try not to be mean for the sake of being mean, and if I do do a joke or a tweet or something that is at someone's expense - and those are my fine lines; obviously they're there - I want it to be something that's pretty much across the board we all as a society agree this is bad. Like, if you tweet something mean about OJ Simpson, okay [laughter]. I don't know--

TCC: Have you ever regretted telling a joke?

BW: Yes, just because I didn't think the joke out enough or it was too mean. There is a joke on my album Hi, Ho that I made about a situation where I was on a small plane, they said the plane was too heavy to fly, and then some people would have to get off the plane and take a later flight so that this flight could arrive safely, and then I had flexible travel plans. I got off the plane, I was the only person that got off the plane, and then the plane took off. So just to reiterate [laughter], a jet was too heavy to fly, one midget got off the plane, and now you're good to go.

TCC: Actually, that's not a bad joke.

BW: Oh, well, what happened because of that was I talked about there was an obese woman on that flight, and I was like, "She should've been kicked off. The problem is weight. She is the problem. She has more of it than anyone else on the plane. Therefore, kick her off, not me and then I went into a rant about fat people. And it took a friend of mine to be like, "You know what? I hate to be this person, but that rant is really mean. It's really mean to fat people." And I looked at it and it was. It absolutely was. And it was unnecessarily mean. So I changed the joke to something that appeared on the album where it's called Good Fat vs. Bad Fat. Where I say there are plenty of wonderful, good fat people in this country that have no problems being fat, who I have no problems with being fat.

Then there are bad fat people. And here's what bad fat people do. And that made the joke a little better but yeah, there were times when some people in the audience were offended at that joke. But then after I changed it, they liked it and a lot of people were offended. So that's a circumstance where I was too harsh. And the criticism was valid and I changed it to adjust to the criticism. And then I'm happy with how the joke ended up.

TCC: Live and learn on that one. Do you think your stature gives you the permission to be more un-PC than other comedians?

BW: Yeah, 'cause I’m not as threatening. And also I have a perspective that allows me to do a couple of things that your average person can't do. For instance, earlier in the interview I talked about the Mike Ward situation where he made fun of a disabled child and the child sued and he had to pay the kid. A lot of people are saying, "Oh, you should never make fun of a disabled child." And then I came out on Canadian television and said, "Yeah, you should. I was a disabled child. So, people made fun of me, don't pretend like this never happens. But at the same time, I never cried about it. I never got sad about it. So that's the perspective that they weren't [expecting?] to hear. And the fact that I'm disabled means that when certain people are complaining and bitching about their life, I can look at someone and be like, "Your life is not that bad. It could be worse."

TCC: Do strangers often try and pick you up?

BW: Not so much strangers, but people after comedy shows. Yeah. They do that. No. For strangers, what I get a lot is people calling me the opposite of what I am. There's a lot of people that address me as “Big Guy” or something along those lines, and it's very confusing because I don't know what they're trying to do. I don't know if they're trying to confuse me. I don't know if they're trying to fool me and be like, "Well maybe I'm not that small, because that guy called me 'Big Guy.'" I don't know if people do this all the time. Like if you would see a fat person, would you call them “Tiny” or “Slim” or “Healthy?” I don't know, why am I called the opposite of what I am? It's very confusing to me.

TCC: But you said that it helps you, you can get away with stuff with girls and stares of your friends. Is that still true [chuckles]?

BW: I mean, yeah. Women feel safe with me. Because a woman with me knows that she can stop the situation from advancing to a point that she's comfortable at any time. And I do -- this is my special, where all you do is you put a hand on my forehead [chuckles] and put it straight out and you're good, I can't reach now [chuckles]. So, women feel safe with me as well they should, because not only am I morally objected at going too far, but physically I cannot do it.

So, because I can't go that far, my line is pushed back a little more, because it's like well, whereas they wouldn't allow a six-four white guy to do that because then he could take it further if he wanted to and then take it to an inappropriate place. I'm allowed that leeway because they know it's never going to advance to a horrible area.

TCC: No, have you ever grabbed a woman's butt and had her smack you?

BW: No, I have never done that. I joke about grabbing a woman's ass in my act, but I do want to stress that I have never just walked up to a female that I don't know and have no interaction with her and then just grabbed her pants or a butt. I've never done that. In the joke, I actually say I could do it, so -- which I do believe. I believe I could get away with it, but that doesn't mean I want to test those waters.

TCC: No, and by the way I had that question next. I was actually going to say, "I don't think you did this."

BW: No. I did not and nor will I, but--

TCC: Well, you seem to be too respectful to do that, but it would be an interesting anthropological experiment?

BW: Yeah. Most of the times to be honest with you, I get sexually harassed certainly more than I do to females, because ... they are comfortable with me, and because they know I can't take it to a dangerous place. There is often times when I'm in a bar or after a show, and a woman just grabs my head and shoves it into her cleavage, or grabs my ass, or something like that which -- don't get me wrong. I'm not complaining [laughter], but it's just interesting. It's just interesting that that occurs.

Well, the personal boundaries, I think for comedians they're a little bit different anyway, but I think people -- feel free to do stuff -- It's interesting with comedians because when we walk on stage, oftentimes we're talking about ourselves for an hour and we're talking about very intimate details, so after hearing us for an hour, a lot of people feel very comfortable with us because they feel like they know us and they're our friends because we just told them our innermost secrets and details of our lives for an hour. What they forget is we know absolutely nothing about the audience. I don't know anything about you, so when you randomly come up and grab my ass, this isn't a friend doing it. It's like, "Who the f### is doing [laughter]...? I was not expecting that." Yeah, people do need to realize that just because they've seen me perform for an hour does not mean that we are now close.

TCC: What do you like to do for fun?

BW: Man. You know what? It's funny, because I'm such a damn workaholic, that it's interesting to be like, "Oh, what do I do for fun?" I like to play video games, I like to keep up with sports, and I just like to spend time with people, because I'm on the road so much that when I'm home, I like to spend time with people that I don't normally get to see. Also, I'm the best laser tagger in the damn country [laughter]. You call Laser Quest in Fullerton, California and say, "Who is the most dominant person?" And they'll be like, "Oh man. Brad Williams owns this bitch [chuckles]."

TCC: Now, what are your goals for the future?

BW: I would love, obviously, just to keep doing stand-up. That's the constant. That's the thing that I'm going to do for the rest of my life, but also I would like a TV show at some point. I'm working on making that happen. In October, a movie I did with Christopher Guest is coming out on Netflix called Mascots. So that's the guy with all the -- Mighty Wind, Waiting for Guffman.

Yeah. That comes out in October and I got a part in there, and it was amazing to work with Christopher Guest. It was a dream to do a scene where just me and Fred Willard were going back and forth improvising. It was fantastic. I could not have been happier with the experience and I'm very thankful that I got to be a part of it.

TCC: Do you watch any of the reality dwarf shows?

BW: Yeah, I do. I have a couple ex-girlfriends that are on one of them [chuckles], that's fun. The Little Women LA, or Little Women New York, or all those shows, it seems like I've dated a cast members each one of those shows. Which is always interesting when I've been in show business for 13 years, and an ex-girlfriend who's never even thought about it calls me up and goes, "Yeah, so I got a TV show," you're like, "Why the f### did you get one?" [chuckles].

TCC: That's funny.

BW: "What are you doing?" So sure there's some jealousy there, but then I watch the show and go, "Oh no, there's no jealousy. I don't want to be on that show." So, it's fine.

TCC: So, you know some of the girls on the shows? Do you know any of the other dwarf stars? Like, do you know Peter Dinklage and Warwick Davis?

BW: I don't know Peter, I have met Warwick. He is amazing and an inspiration, and I hate that when people are like, "Well, all dwarves know each other, right?" And you want to get mad, but you can't because we do [chuckles]. So, you can't really get up to that. The only one we don't really know is Dinklage, he's kind of on his own island. I obviously love what he does and I hope to work with him someday. Currently I'm writing some sort of dream project, it won't be ready for years, but I'm writing some sort of dream project that I would love to work with him on.

TCC: You seem to have so many things going on. When is your podcast on so I can tell people to look for it?

BW: Podcasts, new episodes every Monday. And it's on iTunes, and Google Play, and Yeah, see About Last Night Podcasts.

TCC: Okay, great. Is there anything else you want to add?

BW: Let's see, we said don't pick me up, we said don't call me "Big Guy." Oh, just because you see me on the street by myself does not mean a convention isn't out [chuckles]. You laughed, you laughed.

TCC: I did.

BW: You laughed, because someone recently saw me in a hotel lobby, and the first words out of her mouth was "Oh, is there a convention?"

TCC: You're kidding?

BW: No, there's one. That would be the lamest convention ever!

TCC: Have you ever been to a little person convention?

BW: Of course. I love it. They're the best. They're amazing things. I'm happy to be a part of them, and as much as some people don't like me because I say the word “midget,” I love what they do and I love the opportunities that they offer to young and old little people.

TCC: Okay. But this when people see one of you, or just you, they think there's something new or interesting in town?

BW: Yeah, and it's funny because then he got mad at me when I gave the retort, and and which is -- I looked at him and was like, "Yeah, there's not a dwarf convention, but looking at you there's obviously a douchebag convention in town." And then he got mad [laughter].

TCC: I imagine so.

BW: And he's like, "Yeah, he's like, "Well, I'm not a douchebag." I'm like, "Tell that the rhinestones on your shirt."

TCC: Oh, yikes [laughter]. Wow, well -- You can't really have that argument if you are a man and have rhinestones on your shirt.

BW: I don't think you can, even in Vegas.

TCC: Where's your next touring going to be?

BW: Well, tomorrow I go to Tampa, Florida. The weekend after that Virginia Beach. The weekend after that... The weekend after that I have a week off, but I'm flying to Richmond, Virginia to watch Tony Stewart race because he's now become a fan and a friend of mine. And then it's just constant. is the tour schedule. People ask me a lot like, "Hey, so when are you done with your tour?" Like when I die [laughter]. That's when I'm done with my tour.

It's like in Game of Thrones when the knight -- when a soldier of the night's watch dies they say, "And now his watch is over." That's what they say when a comedian dies. They go, "And now his tour is done."

No, you never stop. Don Rickles is still touring. He's 86 years old. So, I'm not stopping.

You can check out Brad Williams’ tour schedule at, listen to his weekly podcast About Last Night with Adam Ray on Mondays, check out his Showtime comedy specials Brad Williams: Fun Size and Brad Williams: Daddy Issues, as well as catching him in the upcoming Christopher Guest original Netflix film Mascots that releases on October 13, 2016.


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Michelle Tompkins

Michelle Tompkins is an award-winning media, PR and crisis communications professional with more than ten years experience with coverage in virtually every traditional and new media outlet. She is currently a communications and media strategist and writer, as well as the author of College Prowler: Guidebook for Columbia University. She served as the Media Relations Manager for the Girl Scouts of the USA where she managed all media and talking points, created social media strategy, trained executives and donors and served as the organization’s primary spokesperson, participating in daily interviews with local, regional, and national media outlets. She managed the media for the Let Me Know internet safety and Cyberbullying prevention campaign with Microsoft, as well as Girl Scouts’ centennial Year of the Girl To Get Her There celebration in 2012, which yielded more than 800 million earned media impressions. In addition to her extensive media experience, Michelle worked as a talent agent in Los Angeles, California, as well contracting as a digital content developer and her writing has appeared in newspapers and online. She is passionate about television, theater, classic movies, all things food and in-home entertaining. While she has lived and worked in NYC for more than a decade, she is from suburban Sacramento and gets back there often to watch the San Francisco Giants on TV with her family.

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